Pasquale Cardillo (BSO clarinet, 1939-1984) oral history interview: Cardillo, Pasquale, interviewee, 1991-12-09T00:00:00+00:00, 2023-06-14T00:00:00+00:00

Cassette 4: Oral history conducted by Robert Ripley on December 9, 1991.

PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT

Tape 04, Side A

0:08 INTERVIEW BEGINS

Pasquale "Patsy" Cardillo December 9, 1991 West Newton, MA

0:40-5:30 early life, introduction to the clarinet and early lessons, life as a young Italian immigrant in MA

5:10 clarinet lessons with Louis PAGERY

5:35-7:40 scholarship to New England Conservatory, studied with Viktor POLATSCHEK, attended BSO concerts

7:45-8:25 first impressions of KOUSSEVITZKY

9:25-13:55 Invitation to audition for KOUSSEVITZKY, engineered by Rosario MAZZEO after the clarinetist for the Tanglewood season did not appear

13:55-16:20 audition for BSO, all principal players present, held in the green room

17:50-19:30* impressions of beginning to play with Tanglewood, of KOUSSEVITZKY

19:40-23:11 KOUSSEVITZKY disciplining him after Cardillo made mistakes

23:30-26:27 memories of the old timers, Gaston DUFRESNE's firing, Fritz KREISLER's car accident

26:30 health insurance, impressions of the BSO as a workplace

**-30:04 tiff with Arthur FIEDLER, resolved quickly

Tape 04, Side B

0:10 INTERVIEW BEGINS

0:10- friendship with Arthur FIEDLER(??)

[Review :30-3:00]

3:00-5:40 stories of Arthur and Arthur getting fired, practical jokes among the orchestra members

6:30 story with Sammy(NAME??) and KOUSSEVITZKY

[Review 7:00-11:00]

11:37-15:54 Stories of cooking with Joseph DE PASQUALE & clam sauce

[Review 12:00-16:00]

16:12-18:27 Charles MUNCH memories, often canceled rehearsals, a "mood" conductor, the "halcyon" years

18:29-20:11 William STEINBERG memories, felt he was not a strong conductor, not approachable

20:16-22:40 Memories of Seiji OZAWA, made questionable choices about hiring, "sterile" conducting

22:10 - "I felt more musically satisfied [with KOUSSEVITZKY], regardless of how demanding KOUSSEVITSKY was."

23:10-25:19 Player's Committee experiences, work with CABOT on Trustees

25:35-27:00 Performance of Italian Dialect story with the "three bears"

27:38 INTERVIEW ENDS